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Old Sep 12, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04   #1
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Default Countering the new IWAY

I play necro in pvp mainly and am getting quite annoyed at the new IWAYs or warriors using the new and improved Defy Pain. SS and Insidious is no longer "shutting down" melee or even doing enough dmg to do anything to the warrior. How have you guys dealed with these on a necro? Or if u've killed them on other classes, please tell.
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Old Sep 12, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06   #2
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Old Sep 12, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #3
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Old Sep 12, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #4
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Old Sep 13, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #5
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sry i dun think i made this clear. Most of them I have seen don't use IWAY just Defy Pain. Anyway to disable the skill other than being a dom mesmer?
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Old Sep 13, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51   #6
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Usually the way to beat IWAY(or w.e the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you wanna call it) is to all ball up and abuse some shit. There are other skills that remove all adren but im tired and cant be arsed thinking much
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Old Sep 13, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47   #7
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Kite in ward against foes all match and kill the necro 1st. And also [email protected] pain in pvp. I will keep my evis.
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #8
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defy pain...pvp? tanking sucks...yea both visages obviously counter it.
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #9
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20   #10
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defy pain...pvp? tanking sucks...yea both visages obviously counter it.

I see alot of groups running 7 Defy Pain IWAYs and 1 N/Rt for OoV...They tear most balanced groups up but i must admit they have little to no chance of winning the relic run
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26   #11
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Are you sure those balanced groups aren't extremely bad?

Abusing AoE = win. Abusing Earth AoE = sexy win.
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31   #12
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eh, not effected as much as you think it is...
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Old Oct 01, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22   #13
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Just rush them and dont kill the pets
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Old Oct 02, 2008, 05:48 AM // 05:48   #14
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IWAY is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin unbeatable, you should know that LOL sorry jj um use AV/SV or similar
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Old Oct 02, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51   #15
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If they don't use IWAY, killing pets shouldn't be a problem?
I haven't play against it just want to know.
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Old Oct 02, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02   #16
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how does insidious not work with defy pain?
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Old Oct 02, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39   #17
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how does insidious not work with defy pain?
The OP seems confused. SS and IP never ever "shut down" They are reactive hexes requiring the hexed foe to do something,hence ineffective when the foe kites/does nothing

Life stealing (sacrifice +degeneration included) does not count as "damage" and isn't reduced by defy
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Old Oct 03, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18   #18
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bring lots of wells and wards. heheh. no energy, not doing any damage, can't walk out of ward = dead
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Old Oct 06, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #19
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AS said before [Soothing Images] Will turn the green light on you for a target. Fun skill to use in PVP. Pisses warriors off big time.
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Old Oct 06, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #20
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AS said before [Soothing Images] Will turn the green light on you for a target. Fun skill to use in PVP. Pisses warriors off big time.
thats why i make it a point to kill any mes that uses that skill first on my warrior. cant say how many times i've seen that save someone in pvp. And yet they are still mostly used in farming....granted thats where they may be the most effective.
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